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Five awesome things Vladimir Putin did to piss off America

Russian President Vladimir Putin has become one gigantic thorn in the side of America’s war party neo-cons and military complex multinationals. Here is a list of 5 moves Putin made to warrant the wrath of the entire western establishment

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Although Russian President Putin has worked to form a strong and lasting partnership with Washington – in fields as diverse as fighting terrorism and exploring outer space – the spirit of goodwill and bilateral relations has not been reciprocated.

US-led NATO forces continue to push inexorably towards the Russian border, while plans are in progress to build a missile defense shield in Eastern Europe, which threatens the strategic balance in the region, thereby paving the way for another arms race.

At the same time, the United States and its allies have launched a number of disastrous and illegitimate wars against sovereign states, while portraying Putin as the greatest threat to global peace. The question that must be asked is: What has the Russian leader done to attract this sort of vilification on the part of the US? The answers reveal much more about the current state of affairs in Washington than anything that could be described as threatening on Putin’s part.

5. Putin gave US a ‘Get out of War Free’ card

One would think that the United States would be grateful to the Russian leader for his last-minute mediating efforts that allowed Washington to avoid what would have been a costly and certainly disastrous military confrontation in Syria. One would have thought wrong.

August 29, 2013 marks the day when the wheels of America’s global juggernaut began to go wobbly. It was the moment when UK Prime Minister David Cameron lost a historic vote in the House of Commons to join a US-led attack on Syria following on dubious claims that President Bashar Assad had used chemical weapons against a Syrian village.

The British people, tired of being dragged into poorly scripted war sequels, were no longer America’s poodle.

Cameron’s failed bid placed the Obama administration in a nasty pickle: Risk attacking Syria without the support of its (former) most-reliable ally, or lose face on the international stage by calling off the dogs of war. Russia offered a third way. After US Secretary of State John Kerry remarked that Syria could avoid US cruise-missile diplomacy if it agreed to surrender its chemical weapons “within one week,” Moscow jumped at the opportunity to mediate on behalf of peace.

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Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, right, and U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry at their meeting during the 50th Munich Security Conference | Photo: Eduard Pesov, RIA Novosti

It should be noted that Kerry got dragged over America’s sizzling media coals for committing the “blunder” of opening the door to a peaceful settlement to the Syrian crisis. Yet Putin would get most of the blame for keeping America out of war.

US news website Breitbart described Putin’s diplomatic overtures in Syria as “an obvious desire to make Kerry pay for his flub and throw a wrench in Obama’s determination to go to war with Syria.”

Now if Putin failed to get positive press by keeping America out of war, then what are the chances of him getting positive reviews under normal conditions?In any event, Washington is doing precisely what it wanted to do before Putin got involved: Bombing Syria – on the flimsy pretext of Islamic State threatening the country.

4. Putin awards Edward Snowden asylum

On May 20, 2013, an idealistic young man named Edward Snowden, a former NSA contractor, caught a flight out of Hawaii non-stop to Hong Kong, where he handed over a massive stash of classified documents to journalists Glenn Greenwald and Laura Poitras. The leaked information showed explosive details of a previously unknown global surveillance network run by the NSA in cooperation with the so-called Five Eyes, which include the UK, Australia, New Zealand and Canada.

Although Russia may not have ranked among Snowden’s top-10 global getaway destinations, on June 23 the CIA agent-turned-whistleblower got a flight from Hong Kong to Moscow’s Sheremetyevo International Airport. On July 12, while still awaiting lengthy processing, Snowden released a statement extending his “gratitude and respect” to Russia, alongside a short list of other countries, for being “the first to stand against human rights violations carried out by the powerful rather than the powerless.

Suddenly, Russia was propelled from relative obscurity in the world of human rights defenders to the protector of oppressed and weary the world over. To call this situation an embarrassment for the United States would be an understatement. Snowden not only hung out the dirty laundry on America’s incredibly intrusive global intel network, but he sought refuge in ‘Putin’s Russia,’ a place that rarely receives a sliver of sunshine from the Western media and military complex.

Meanwhile, Snowden does not seem ready to live the cloistered life of a whistleblower on the run, drinking scotch and watching James Bond reruns in some backwater hotel in his underwear.

Former U.S. National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden | Photo: Mark Blinch, Reuters

Former U.S. National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden | Photo: Mark Blinch, Reuters

Indeed, last January it was announced that the former NSA contractor would partner with Pentagon Papers whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg and Greenwald on the executive board of the non-profit Freedom of the Press Foundation, which claims to work on behalf of public-interest journalism.

We began this organization to protect and support those who are being punished for bringing transparency to the world’s most powerful factions or otherwise dissent from government policy,” Greenwald said, while calling Snowden’s actions “heroic.”

In April, Snowden made a video-link appearance during Putin’s annual Q&A marathon session, questioning the president about Russia’s attitude on mass surveillance.

Putin, assuring that Russia did not have any such program comparable to that of the NSA global system, did not miss a chance to take a thinly disguised dig at the US legal system: “Our agents are controlled by the law,” he told the audience. “You have to get a court’s permission to put an individual under surveillance. We don’t have mass permission, and our law makes it’s impossible for that kind of mass permission to exist.

For all those people who initially supported Snowden’s whistleblowing crusade, many of them turned viciously and hypocritically against him when they realized that they would be lectured on their own faults from not only Moscow, Russia, but from Vladimir Putin himself.

3. The (wildly successful) Sochi Games

Despite the gigantic ‘shitstorm’ American weathermen had predicted for the 2014 Sochi Games, the event turned out to be much more of a success than most people could have predicted. Not only did the dire, apocalyptic predictions of total failure not materialize, Russian athletes did not have far to go to haul home their 13 gold medals – the highest count of the Games.

However, many would-be visitors to Sochi shied away from the event thanks to the incessant doom-mongering of the Western media, which focused its pre-Game attention on ridiculous subjects, like the occasional stray dog, a couple of strange-looking toilets, and who could ever forget terrorism. But most damaging of all, perhaps was the uninformed discussion of Putin’s so-called ‘anti-gay’ ban, which the Western media has yet to properly explain.

In an interview with world media, Putin explained that in Russia “all people are absolutely equal regardless of their religion, sex, ethnicity, or sexual orientation. Everybody is equal. We have recently only passed a law prohibiting propaganda, and not of homosexuality only, but of homosexuality and child abuse, child sexual abuse. But this has nothing in common with persecuting individuals for their sexual orientation. And there is a world of difference between these things.”

This easy to understand law did not stop dozens of media commentators unleashing a torrent of absolute lies regarding the subject.

A fireworks display over Fisht Stadium during the opening ceremony of the XXII Olympic Winter Games in Sochi | Photo: Vitaliy Belousov, RIA Novosti

A fireworks display over Fisht Stadium during the opening ceremony of the XXII Olympic Winter Games in Sochi | Photo: Vitaliy Belousov, RIA Novosti

Harvey Fierstein wrote in the New York Times that “Russia’s president, Vladimir V. Putin, has declared war on homosexuals… allowing police officers to arrest tourists and foreign nationals they suspect of being homosexual, lesbian or “pro-gay” and detain them for up to 14 days.” Fierstein, an actor and playwright, not a lawyer, went on to explain in perfect nonsense that “the law could mean that any Olympic athlete, trainer, reporter, family member or fan who is gay — or suspected of being gay, or just accused of being gay — can go to jail.

How did Fierstein come up with this delusional idea? Well, instead of quoting a Russian source that might just have some clue as to what the law really was about, Fierstein quotes another equally clueless US publication, Huffington Post, who got their bogus information from a Canadian travel site (!) Well, so much for investigative journalism.

Now, with everybody believing that homosexuals were being rounded up by anti-gay goon squads and shipped off to a colorless Siberian archipelago, a number of celebrities, including Madonna and Lady Gaga, jumped on the propaganda express by shouting some mindless statements during their concerts that were totally detached from the reality.

Finally, there were even calls on part of the gay (and straight) community for the United States to declare a boycott of the Sochi Games, a move that was more about attempting to ruin Russia’s international event than any real and legitimate concerns about a non-existent ‘anti-gay’ law. Although the US did not go to the extreme of boycotting Sochi, Barack Obama did not attend.

That is a shame, because he missed one of the best Winter Games the world has seen in a long time. Incidentally, IOC President Thomas Bach said Russia would set up public protest zones in Sochi for “people who want to express their opinion or want to demonstrate for or against something.” They ended up being the emptiest sections in Sochi.

2. Putin is not fomenting global wars

Despite the West’s relentless efforts to portray Putin as some sort of warmonger in the style of, well, contemporary Western warmongers, Putin’s track record for keeping Russia out of foreign military entanglements has been impeccable. This indisputable fact continues to be a source of great irritation, I believe, for Western governments.

Consider the situation in Ukraine, where Putin has displayed a remarkable level of wise statesmanship to the point where the Western media must actually fabricate grand works of fiction in order to support the West’s increasingly delusional rhetoric against him. The most ludicrous work of fiction to date is entitled something like, “Putin’s Invisible Invasion of Ukraine.”

Here is how Business Insider lauded Putin for his contribution in brokering a ceasefire in Ukraine: “As Vladimir Putin engaged in marathon peace negotiations with Germany, France, and Ukraine in the capital of Belarus, Russian tanks were allegedly rolling into Ukraine.

There’s just one huge problem with that little line: It’s utterly false. Any guesses as to where Business Insider’s Michael B. Kelley got his military intelligence? Of course, from a Ukrainian military spokesman. Yes, an entire column of Russian tanks were said to have rolled into Ukraine at the very moment Putin was in Minsk hammering out the details of a peace deal. Did the Ukrainian side offer satellite evidence to support their very serious claims? No, they did not. Did the Western side request evidence to support the claims? Well, we don’t know, but one thing is for sure there are no such photos because there have been no such invasions.

But we should not expect a mere thing like facts to spoil the West’s anti-Putin party, which has been going full-throttle for years.

Meanwhile, no less a respectable periodical than The Economist penned a vacuous Valentine Day’s allegation that simply don’t hold water under scrutiny: “The EU and NATO are… Putin’s ultimate targets. To him, Western institutions and values are more threatening than armies. He wants to halt their spread, corrode them from within and, at least on the West’s fragile periphery, supplant them with his own model of governance.”

So how does the West ‘prove’ Russia’s military invasion of Ukraine, which has never been captured either by mobile phone, photojournalist or the constellation of surveillance satellites circling the planet? Putin’s invisible war in Ukraine is described as “hybrid warfare.”

Anders Fogh Rasmussen, NATO’s former secretary-general, irresponsibly and at great risk to the global peace, warned that Putin’s invisible armies now rolling over Ukraine would eventually take their magic traveling show to other Eastern European countries.

Latvia's army soldiers hold NATO (R) and Latvian flags during a celebration of the anniversary of Latvia joining the NATO, in Riga | Photo: Ints Kalnins, Reuters

Latvia’s army soldiers hold NATO (R) and Latvian flags during a celebration of the anniversary of Latvia joining the NATO, in Riga | Photo: Ints Kalnins, Reuters

This is not about Ukraine,” Rasmussen – changing the subject to fit his theme – told The Telegraph in an interview. “Putin knows that if he crosses the red line and attacks a NATO ally, he will be defeated. Let us be quite clear about that. But he is a specialist in (wait for it) hybrid warfare.”

It should be mentioned that Rasmussen himself was in charge of the 18-nation Western military alliance when Russia’s efforts to join the US missile defense shield in Eastern Europe were shot down, thus confirming Moscow’s valid suspicions that Russia – and despite an appeal to a ‘reset’ by Washington – was the actual target of this system.

Personally, I believe that the West and NATO were gambling that Putin would blink first and rush into an all-out military invasion of Ukraine. There are many reasons why the West would be desirous of such an outcome. The most obvious is that it would forever ruin Russia’s influence among European countries, and that would only serve the interests of NATO and Washington, not to mention the West’s military industrial complex. So when Putin did not jump at the tempting Ukrainian bait, the West was forced to begin circulating scare tactics that said Russia is planning for more ‘hybrid warfare’ schemes elsewhere.

Fortunately, even Washington’s most trusted allies have exposed the warnings as sensationalism and propaganda.

Der Spiegel wrote that “battles between the Ukrainian army and the pro-Russian separatists had largely stopped and heavy weaponry was being withdrawn. The Minsk cease-fire wasn’t holding perfectly, but it was holding.

It went on to note, however, that despite the relative success of the Minsk Agreement, General Philip Breedlove, the top NATO commander in Europe, told the media in Washington that Putin had “upped the ante” in eastern Ukraine – with “well over a thousand combat vehicles, Russian combat forces, some of their most sophisticated air defense, battalions of artillery” having been sent to the Donbass.

What is clear,” Breedlove said, “is that right now, it is not getting better. It is getting worse every day.”

According to Der Spiegel, German leaders “were stunned” by the comments, this flew in the face of the realities on the ground.

They didn’t understand what Breedlove was talking about. And it wasn’t the first time. Once again, the German government, supported by intelligence gathered by the Bundesnachrichtendienst (BND), Germany’s foreign intelligence agency, did not share the view of NATO’s Supreme Allied Commander Europe (SACEUR).”

For anybody who understands the increasingly pugilistic mentality of the US, where opportunities for militaristic expansion are deemed too valuable to waste, Putin’s “failure” to attack Ukraine is nothing less than a strategic setback for the West.

1. Defending traditional values against ‘new world order’

Although talk of a ‘new world order’ is largely confined to the more conspiratorial corners of respectable society, it would be difficult to deny that a frontal assault against traditional values and modes of (moral) behavior has been increasing of late. If I am reading the situation correctly, Russia – a traditional, conservative country that is being slowly rebuilt on the foundation of Orthodox Christianity – wants none of it.

One does not need to talk about the crude escapades and eventual arrest of Pussy Riot, for example, to understand that Russia is not willing to bargain when it comes to maintaining some level of decency and morals in society.

Russia’s already-mentioned law regarding the dissemination of “gay propaganda” is a perfect example. On the one hand, while the law does not infringe upon any person’s freedom to engage in whatever sort of sexual arrangements they prefer, it also ensures the freedom of children not to be forced to consider such issues. This sounds like nothing more than the soundest common sense. However, the West, which is becoming increasingly godless in terms of its hyper-liberal prerogatives, wants to unleash any and all subject of carnal interest into the public square.

I know I may be stepping into a cultural mine field here, but the latest attempt, I think, to impose a warped vision of humanity – the celebration of transgender – arrived courtesy of the 2014 Eurovision first-place winner, drag queen Conchita Wurst (who I can’t help thinking also bears an uncanny resemblance to Jesus Christ – coincidence?).While some may say this latest persona to enter the global consciousness is a harmless artist cashing in on his/her ‘uniqueness,’ others would disagree.

Masked members of protest band Pussy Riot leave a police station in Adler during the 2014 Sochi Winter Olympics, February 18, 2014 | Photo: Shamil Zhumatov, Reuters

Masked members of protest band Pussy Riot leave a police station in Adler during the 2014 Sochi Winter Olympics, February 18, 2014 | Photo: Shamil Zhumatov, Reuters

Considering that millions of people – many of them impressionable children and adolescents – watch this annual program, should we be so quick to dismiss what kind of psychological impact a bearded transgender woman might leave on this group? Are these the “heroes” that our children should be emulating?

Shortly after the Eurovision show, Putin, who described himself as “very liberal,” gave his view on the winner: “For us it is important to reaffirm traditional values…People have the right to live their lives the way they want. But they should not be aggressive, or put it up for show.

Many Russians sided with their leader on the matter as thousands signed a petition demanding that Eurovision be removed from the TV lineup, accusing “godless” European liberals of exposing children to a “hotbed of sodomy”. Indeed, it can hardly be denied that, over the long-term, such outrageous displays of ‘culture’ must eventually take its toll on any society, and not least of all in the area of simple demographics.

Because Vladimir Putin is fighting against the steady encroachment of increasingly aggressive and irresponsible behavior flooding the world from the West, the Russian leader has attracted the scorn of sell-out Western politicians the world over. Yet he has also won over a huge number, the hearts and minds of millions of individuals – Americans included – who understand that Putin is fighting for traditional conservative values in a world gone mad.

For that he deserves to be not simply applauded, but followed.

References:

http://rt.com/op-edge/246481-putin-us-policy-russia/

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Is Silicon Valley Morphing Into The Morality Police?

Who gets to define what words and phrases protected under the First Amendment constitute hate — a catchall word that is often ascribed to any offensive speech someone simply doesn’t like?

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Silicon Valley used to be technology companies. But it has become the “morality police,” controlling free speech on its platforms.

What could go wrong?

In a speech Monday, Apple CEO Tim Cook said:

“Hate tries to make its headquarters in the digital world. At Apple, we believe that technology needs to have a clear point of view on this challenge. There is no time to get tied up in knots. That’s why we only have one message for those who seek to push hate, division and violence: You have no place on our platforms.”

Here’s the goliath problem:

Who gets to define what words and phrases protected under the First Amendment constitute hate — a catchall word that is often ascribed to any offensive speech someone simply doesn’t like?

Will Christians who don’t support abortion rights or having their tax dollars go toward Planned Parenthood be considered purveyors of hate for denying women the right to choose? Will millions of Americans who support legal immigration, as opposed to illegal immigration, be labeled xenophobes or racists and be banned from the digital world?

Yes and yes. How do we know? It’s already happening, as scores of conservatives nationwide are being shadow banned and/or censored on social media, YouTube, Google and beyond.

Their crime?

Running afoul of leftist Silicon Valley executives who demand conformity of thought and simply won’t tolerate any viewpoint that strays from their rigid political orthodoxy.

For context, consider that in oppressive Islamist regimes throughout the Middle East, the “morality police” take it upon themselves to judge women’s appearance, and if a woman doesn’t conform with their mandatory and highly restrictive dress code — e.g., wearing an identity-cloaking burqa — she could be publicly shamed, arrested or even stoned in the town square.

In modern-day America, powerful technology companies are actively taking the role of the de facto morality police — not when it comes to dress but when it comes to speech — affecting millions. Yes, to date, those affected are not getting stoned, but they are being blocked in the digital town square, where billions around the globe do their business, cultivate their livelihoods, connect with others and get news.

That is a powerful cudgel to levy against individuals and groups of people. Wouldn’t you say?

Right now, unelected tech billionaires living in a bubble in Palo Alto — when they’re not flying private to cushy climate summits in Davos — are deciding who gets to enjoy the freedom of speech enshrined in the U.S. Constitution and who does not based on whether they agree with people’s political views and opinions or not.

You see how dangerous this can get — real fast — as partisan liberal elites running Twitter, Facebook, Google (including YouTube), Apple and the like are now dictating to Americans what they can and cannot say online.

In communist regimes, these types of folks are known as central planners.

The election of Donald Trump was supposed to safeguard our freedoms, especially regarding speech — a foundational pillar of a democracy. It’s disappointing that hasn’t happened, as the censorship of conservative thought online has gotten so extreme and out of control many are simply logging off for good.

A failure to address this mammoth issue could cost Trump in 2020. If his supporters are blocked online — where most voters get their news — he’ll be a one-term president.

It’s time for Congress to act before the morality police use political correctness as a Trojan horse to decide our next election.

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Paul Craig Roberts: The Disintegration of Western Society

Feminists brought this madness onto themselves.

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Radical feminists are now being banned by Twitter not because they hate men, which is perfectly OK as far as Twitter is concerned, but because they object to “transwomen.”

What is a “transwoman?” As far as I can understand, a “transwoman” is a male with a penis who declares himself to be a women and demands his right to use women’s toilette facilities along with the women who are using them.

The feminist, Meghan Murphy, twittered a statement and a question:

“Men are not women.”

“How are transwomen not men? What is the difference between men and transwomen?”

Twitter described this as “hateful conduct” and banned Meghan Murphy. https://quillette.com/2018/11/28/twitters-trans-activist-decree/

There you have it. Yesterday it was feminists who were exercising their special society-bestowed privileges to censor. Today it is the feminists who are being censored. As this insanity of “Western Civilization” continues, tomorrow it will be the transwomen who are censored and banned.

What precisely is afoot?

My readers, who have partially and some wholly escaped from The Matrix, understand that this is the further fragmentation of American society. Identity Politics has set men, women, blacks, Jews, Asians, Hispanics, and white people against one another. Identity Politics is the essence of the Democratic Party and the American liberal/progressive/left. Now, with the creation of “new” but otherwise nonexistent “genders,” although they are honored as real by the controlled whores who masquerade as a “Western media,” we witness radical feminists being silenced by men pretending to be women.

I sympathize with Meghan Murphy, but she brought this on herself and on the rest of us by accepting Identity Politics. Identity Politics gave Meghan a justification for hating men even, as she failed to realize, it provided the basis for moving her into the exploitative class that must be censored.

Where does this end?

It has already gone far enough that the American population is so divided and mutually hostile that there is no restraint by “the American people” on government and the elite oligarchs that rule. “The American people” are no longer a reality but a mythical creature like the unicorn.

The film, The Matrix, is the greatest film of out lifetime. Why? Because it shows that there are two realities. A real one of which only a few people are aware, and a virtual one in which eveyone else lives.

In the United States today, and throughout “Western Brainwashed Civilization,” only a handful of people exist who are capable of differentiating the real from the created reality in which all explanations are controlled and kept as far away from the truth as possible. Everything that every Western government and “news” organization says is a lie to control the explanations that we are fed in order to keep us locked in The Matrix.

The ability to control people’s understandings is so extraordinary that, despite massive evidence to the contrary, Americans believe that Oswald, acting alone, was the best shot in human history and using magic bullets killed President John F. Kenndy; that a handful of Saudi Arabians who demonstratively could not fly airplanes outwitted the American national security state and brought down 3 World Trade Center skyscrapers and part of the Pentagon; that Saddam Hussein had and was going to use on the US “weapons of mass destruction;” that Assad “used chemical weapons” against “his own people;” that Libya’s Gaddifi gave his soldiers Viagra so they could better rape Libyan women; that Russia “invaded Ukraine;” that Trump and Putin stole the presidential election from Hillary.

The construction of a make-believe reality guarantees the US military/security complex’s annual budget of $1,000 billion dollars of taxpayers’ money even as Congress debates cutting Social Security in order to divert more largess to the pockets of the corrupt military/security complex.

Readers ask me what they can do about it. Nothing, except revolt and cleanse the system, precisely as Founding Father Thomas Jefferson said.

Is Thomas Jefferson Alive and Well In Paris?

If this report is correct, pray the revolt spreads to the US.

https://www.infowars.com/video-french-police-remove-helmets-in-solidarity-with-yellow-vest-protesters/

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Google Employees debated burying conservative media in search

Google engineer Scott Byer falsely labeled The Daily Caller and Breitbart as “opinion blogs” and urged his coworkers to reduce their visibility in search results.

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  • Google employees debated whether to bury The Daily Caller and other conservative media outlets in the company’s search function as a response to President Donald Trump’s election
  • “Let’s make sure that we reverse things in four years,” one engineer wrote in a thread that included a Google vice president
  • Google employees similarly sought to manipulate search results to combat Trump’s travel ban

Google employees debated whether to bury conservative media outlets in the company’s search function as a response to President Donald Trump’s election in 2016, internal Google communications obtained by The Daily Caller News Foundation reveal.

The Daily Caller and Breitbart were specifically singled out as outlets to potentially bury, the communications reveal.

Trump’s election in 2016 shocked many Google employees, who had been counting on Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton to win.

Communications obtained by TheDCNF show that internal Google discussions went beyond expressing remorse over Clinton’s loss to actually discussing ways Google could prevent Trump from winning again.

“This was an election of false equivalencies, and Google, sadly, had a hand in it,” Google engineer Scott Byer wrote in a Nov. 9, 2016, post reviewed by TheDCNF.

Byer falsely labeled The Daily Caller and Breitbart as “opinion blogs” and urged his coworkers to reduce their visibility in search results.

“How many times did you see the Election now card with items from opinion blogs (Breitbart, Daily Caller) elevated next to legitimate news organizations? That’s something that can and should be fixed,” Byer wrote.

“I think we have a responsibility to expose the quality and truthfulness of sources – because not doing so hides real information under loud noises,” he continued.

“Beyond that, let’s concentrate on teaching critical thinking. A little bit of that would go a long way. Let’s make sure that we reverse things in four years – demographics will be on our side.”

Some of Byer’s colleagues expressed concern that manipulating search results could backfire and suggested alternative measures

One Google engineer, Uri Dekel, identified himself as a Clinton supporter but argued that manipulating search results was the wrong route to take.

“Thinking that Breitbart, Drudge, etc. are not ‘legitimate news sources’ is contrary to the beliefs of a major portion of our user base is partially what got us to this mess. MSNBC is not more legit than Drudge just because Rachel Maddow may be more educated / less deplorable / closer to our views, than, say Sean Hannity,” Dekel wrote in a reply to Byer.

“I follow a lot of right wing folks on social networks you could tell something was brewing. We laughed off Drudge’s Instant Polls and all that stuff, but in the end, people go to those sources because they believe that the media doesn’t do it’s job. I’m a Hillary supporter and let’s admit it, the media avoided dealing with the hard questions and issues, which didn’t pay off. By ranking ‘legitimacy’ you’ll just introduce more conspiracy theories,” Dekel added.

“Too many times, Breitbart is just echoing a demonstrably made up story,” Byer wrote in a reply to his original post. He did not cite any examples.

“That happens at MSNBC, too. I don’t want a political judgement. The desire is to break the myth feedback loop, the false equivalency, instead of the current amplification of it,” Byer added.

“What I believe we can do, technically, that avoids the accusations of conspiracy or bias from people who ultimately have a right and obligation to decide what they want to believe, is to get better at displaying the ‘ripples’ and copy-pasta, to trace information to its source, to link to critiques of those sources, and let people decide what sources they believe,” another Google engineer, Mike Brauwerman, suggested.

“Give people a comprehensive but effectively summarized view of the information, not context-free rage-inducing sound-bytes,” he added.

“We’re working on providing users with context around stories so that they can know the bigger picture,” chimed in David Besbris, vice president of engineering at Google.

“We can play a role in providing the full story and educate them about all sides. This doesn’t have to be filtering and can be useful to everyone,” he wrote.

Other employees similarly advocated providing contextual information about media sources in search results, and the company later did so with a short-lived fact check at the end of 2017.

Not only did the fact-check feature target conservative outlets almost exclusively, it was also blatantly wrong. Google’s fact check repeatedly attributed false claims to those outlets, even though they demonstrably never made those claims.

Google pulled the faulty fact-check program in January, crediting TheDCNF’s investigation for the decision.

A Google spokeswoman said that the conversation did not lead to manipulation of search results for political purposes.

“This post shows that far from suppressing Breitbart and Daily Caller, we surfaced these sites regularly in our products. Furthermore, it shows that we value providing people with the full view on stories from a variety of sources,” the spokeswoman told TheDCNF in an email.

“Google has never manipulated its search results or modified any of its products to promote a particular political ideology. Our processes and policies do not allow for any manipulation of search results to promote political ideologies.”

The discussion about whether to bury conservative media outlets isn’t the first evidence that some Google employees have sought to manipulate search results for political ends.

After Trump announced his initial travel ban in January 2017, Google employees discussed ways to manipulate search results in order to push back against the president’s order.

A group of employees brainstormed ways to counter “islamophobic, algorithmically biased results from search terms ‘Islam’, ‘Muslim’, ‘Iran’, etc,” as well as “prejudiced, algorithmically biased search results from search terms ‘Mexico’, ‘Hispanic’, ‘Latino’, etc.”

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Trump speculated to The Daily Caller in September that Google and Facebook are trying to affect election outcomes.

“I think they already have,” Trump said, responding to questions about potential election interference by Google and Facebook.

“I mean the true interference in the last election was that — if you look at all, virtually all of those companies are super liberal companies in favor of Hillary Clinton,” he added.

“Maybe I did a better job because I’m good with the Twitter and I’m good at social media, but the truth is they were all on Hillary Clinton’s side, and if you look at what was going on with Facebook and with Google and all of it, they were very much on her side,” Trump continued.

Google this month corrected a “knowledge panel” about a Republican women’s group that labeled them “enablers.”

Google cited Wikipedia for the disparaging description, though a similar change made to Wikipedia’s page for the women’s group was corrected almost immediately. Google left up the digital vandalism for three weeks.

Google apologized in May after search results for the California Republican Party falsely listed “Nazism” as one of the state party’s ideologies.

Then, too, Google blamed manipulation of the party’s Wikipedia page for the inaccurate and disparaging description.

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