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The MH17 air traffic tower radar image that no western media is willing to report

A new report has surfaced from air traffic controller radar data that clearly shows military aircraft were in the vicinity of the Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 when it crashed on July 17, 2014. The data comes from an air traffic control center in Rostov near the Ukraine border and shows 20 minutes of recording of the airspace before and after the shooting down of MH17. Western MSM…silent.

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Western main stream media quickly picked up and dissected last nights Russian Channel 1 satellite image, suggesting the Malaysian Boeing MH17 was shot down by a Ukrainian warplane…because it is obviously a doctored photo.

As military expert and analyst The Saker quickly reported:

I am quite sure that the photo of the MH-17 being shot down is fake. The military aircraft appears to be a SU-27, the angle is wrong, as is the side of the attack, and this is not a satellite picture.

What was not reported on, and what appears to be very legit and very hard to dispute, is the below radar data from Russia’s Rostov oblast (a region bordering East Ukraine) indicating that military aircraft were in the air near Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 when it crashed in eastern Ukraine on July 17.

The image was released by a Russian air safety consultancy and reported yesterday via RT…

The consultancy provided a snapshot representing the readings taken by a radar station located in Russia’s Rostov, near the Ukrainian border, shortly before and about 20 minutes after the MH17 crash.

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According to Sergey Melnichenko, CEO of Aviation Safety consultancy, there were one or two warplanes in the air close to the Malaysian airliner. The data casts doubt on the version of the tragedy favored by Western nations, which claims the plane was shot down from the ground by rebel forces with a sophisticated surface-to-air missile.

The data “came from an air traffic control center in Rostov,” Melnichenko told Moskovsky Komsomolets newspaper, declining to reveal which one and whether it was civilian or military. He assured that “we have full trust in the sources, which helped us make it available to the public.”

“The data clearly shows that at the moment of the crash and after it there were planes moving north of the Boeing course. Most likely, they were military, because the spots are very close to each other. The conclusion is that there were either one or two aircraft there,” Melnichenko told the daily.

Another indication that the planes in question were military aircraft is the fact that they didn’t respond to being scanned, Melnichenko said. Civilian planes always reply to signals from radar, while military aircraft are “usually unequipped with transmitter-responders or the pilots turn them off during combat flights,” he explained.

With the rebel forces possessing no air force of their own, Russia and Ukraine are the most logical parties to send warplanes to that area, the expert said. But it would have been impossible for a Russian warplane to make it over the border without being detected by Ukrainian and NATO radars.

“There would’ve been reaction on something like that long ago – from NATO and Ukraine. But there was no reaction because there was nothing to react to,” he explained.

Several days after the MH17 crash, the Russian Defense Ministry released evidence that it detected a Ukrainian fighter jet near the Boeing at the time of the catastrophe. Kiev denied deploying any jets on that day, but it had been routinely using aviation to deliver airstrikes at rebel positions.

According to Melnichenko, the new data is consistent with that published by the military.

“Our data is somewhat more precise…they didn’t present the airplane’s flight paths as clearly. But maybe they did it intentionally, I don’t know,” he said.

The expert added that the presence of military planes north of the Boeing would put them in a position to the left of the plane. Some photos from the crash site showed damage to the cockpit’s left side, consistent with a scenario of an attack by those planes.

Now back to The Saker and his take on the radar image…

The Russian newspaper MK has obtained a screenshot of the recording of a civilian Russian radar screen in Rostov – just east of the Russian-Ukrainian border.

What this image shows is 20 minutes of recording of the airspace before and after the shooting down of MH17. The course of MH17 is shown in purple while the numerous little blue “T” shaped objects in the circle show the radar return of one or, possibly two, aircraft which either do not have a transponder or which have not switched it on. Either way, since we know that the Novorussian Resistance did not have aircraft, and since we know that the Ukrainians have denied that they had any aircraft anywhere near this area at that time, and since we know that had this been a Russian aircraft the US/NATO AWACS and satellites would have picked it up and presented this damning proof a long time ago we can come to the only possible conclusion: the Ukies and their US/EU patrons are lying, the aircraft seen on the radar are Ukrainian, no Buk missile was involved in the shooting (though I personally believe that one was used to cue the Ukrainian aircraft to MH17) and that MH17 was shot down by a combo of gun and missile fire from one or two Ukrainian aircraft.

The Saker

PS: by the way, if a civilian radar needs a return signal from a transponder to get the identity, altitude and speed of an aircraft, military radars do not. Since I am quite sure that the Russians also had plenty of military radars in the region, I am equally sure that, just as the US and NATO, the Russian military also has the ironclad proof that the Ukies did it in the form of radar track recordings. Whether they will ever present such proof or not (and I am sure that they would prefer not to) or whether they will only generate such “leaks” from civilian sources as the one today in MK instead is unclear to me. I guess it depends on what the AngloZionist propaganda says.

Slowly but surely the truth, and the ongoing but oft forgotten cover up will surface. Until then commenters who did happen to run across the radar image news are having a very hard time dealing with the reality of the situation.

Taking the red pill is a painful and lonely process, as you awaken to the deception overload that was shovelled into your mind.  It’s a lot easier to live under the comfortable numbness of the blue pill.

These commenters below, from the Examiner.com (which did run the story) are in the denial / anger phase, of awakening from a lifelong slumber of lies…

The short and sweet, “Russian RT propaganda” denial…
So, the report comes from RT, one of Putin’s greatest propaganda arms, and from a snapshot taken at a Russian flight control center, and has taken months to be released. Am I the only one who thinks this is bogus?

The “I saw it on youtube so it must be fact” denial…
This report is from RT. It bears no credibility in its contents because it is coming straight from Russia. The fact remains that the plane was shot down by rebels who are continually being supported by Russia. The truck that shot the passenger plane was even shown on youtube with Russian plates. You cannot change the facts. That is it and even now Russians in their attempt to show off their military power have been flying wrecklessly all over Europe. It would not surprise me if they shoot down another passenger airline jet or crash against another plane by accident. I wonder what their excuse would be then? The world is not stupid. Are they going to say it was not their military planes?

The “I didn’t get the memo that the audio recordings have been proven a hoax” denial…
Ok, why is no one quoting the separtists audio recordings saying they just shot down a airliner. Did everyone forget this? Also I wouldn’t believe one thing that RT reports. I’ve watched this channel while in Ukraine and couldnt believe how they twisted every story to make the West look bad.

The “I did not get the memo that the Soviet Union does not exists” denial…
So there are no Soviet troops continuously crossing the border into Ukraine. . .Putin was not accompanied by warships to a trade conference in Australia. . Soviet military & spy aircraft aren’t encroaching on Western air space. . .homosexuality is allowed in the Soviet union. . . .Pu$$y Riot are free to protest the Soviet government. . .oligarchs that own oil companies & dare protest Putin’s policies are not robbed of their corporations. . .uh, huh. . .right. . .meet the Soviet Union. . .same as the old Soviet union. . .threatening a return to the Cold War policies & using threats of nuclear war to buttress their policies & rationalize their display of might. . .

The “I did not get the memo the Soviet Union does not exist, and NATO expansion map” denial…
The difference is NATO hasn’t disrupted the borders, air space & travel of those in & of an autonomous nation. . . meanwhile the Soviet Union continues to engage in bullying tactics; the main reason the conflict in Ukraine exists is the Soviet union has been attempting to extort control of Ukraine by forcing them to join other Eastern Bloc nations in a Soviet run anti NATO group. . .exerting the increasingly growing debt Ukraine owes the Soviet union & hiking oil prices many fold over market value. . .to separate Ukraine from the rest of the world. . .without the freedom to render their own choice. . .

Do you really think we are that daft? Please.

The nice try with “some logical reasoning” denial…
…let’s reason this out! The separatists in Eastern Ukraine never flew a plane in the whole period of this crises. Why would a Ukrainean military aircraft target Malaysian airline flight MH17? Was it suspected to be a fighter plane operatd by the Separatists? Did the Separatists ever operated one that could have called for such suspicion?

We wish all the commenters well on their journey to truth, hopefully they too will reach a stage when such tragedies and crimes like MH17 will illicit a more red pill response, like these two commenters below:

A commenter asking the right questions…
Only 3 questions. Why US satellite data is not still released. Why 27 Ukrainian antiaircraft BUK (SA-11) launchers were deployed in the battle zone when MH17 was shot down? After all, rebels don’t have aviation. And is it by chance that Putin’s plane appeared there after 17 minutes after the tragedy?

A commenter who understands what’s a stake for the US if the truth gets out…
This was reported by the Malaysia New Straits Times a long time ago, but all in the west poo-pooed it. I read a comment here that the commenter believed the US finding . The US hasn’t published its finding, probably because it is the same as the Russian radar information. For the west to find or admit that Ukraine fighter planes shot down MH17 is unthinkable, as it nullifies all the US efforts and expenditure to draw Ukraine to the west and to exploit Ukraine mineral resources .

References:

http://rt.com/news/205339-mh17-air-plane-malaysian/

http://www.mk.ru/incident/2014/11/12/dannye-aviadispetcherov-podtverdili-ryadom-s-boingom-rukhnuvshim-na-ukraine-letel-voennyy-samolet.html

http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/2014/11/mh17-more-proof-that-ukies-did-it.html

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RT @redpilltimes: The #MH17 air traffic tower radar image that no western MSM media is willing to report http://t.co/sa7YisAEF7

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@redpilltimes @MartinaHolst
It’s being purported as Fake
i’m not any kind of image expert so can’t agree or disagree
awaiting validation

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RT @redpilltimes: The #MH17 air traffic tower radar image that no western MSM media is willing to report http://t.co/sa7YisAEF7

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RT @redpilltimes: The #MH17 air traffic tower radar image that no western MSM media is willing to report http://t.co/sa7YisAEF7

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RT @redpilltimes: The #MH17 air traffic tower radar image that no western MSM media is willing to report http://t.co/sa7YisAEF7

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RT @redpilltimes: The #MH17 air traffic tower radar image that no western MSM media is willing to report http://t.co/sa7YisAEF7

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@redpilltimes how about that? Radar returns of falling debris right over where the debris field ended up being.

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@rougek68 @redpilltimes @MartinaHolst OK Rouge, someone has to take the stubborn position while the rest of us act triumphant. A hard job

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@herbruhs Image fakery is rampant on the net. And this is high profile
I get fooled all the time w/ images 😉
@redpilltimes @MartinaHolst

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RT @redpilltimes: The #MH17 air traffic tower radar image that no western MSM media is willing to report http://t.co/sa7YisAEF7

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Lori Loughlin’s daughter was on the yacht of USC’s Board of Trustees when her mom was accused in scheme.

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Lori Loughlin’s daughter Olivia Jade Giannulli was spending spring break on a University of Southern California official’s yacht when her mother was accused Tuesday of involvement in a college admissions scheme, reports said.

Giannulli, 19, was on Rick Caruso’s luxury yacht Invictus in the Bahamas, a report said. Caruso is chairman of USC’s Board of Trustees.

Giannulli, who currently attends USC, was with Caruso’s daughter Gianna and several other friends, the outlet reported.

“My daughter and a group of students left for spring break prior to the government’s announcement yesterday,” Caruso told TMZ. “Once we became aware of the investigation, the young woman decided it would be in her best interests to return home.”

Loughlin’s daughter has since returned to Los Angeles to face the allegations that could result in her getting expelled from USC.

USC’s Board of Trustees will not decide the status of Giannulli and the other students involved in the case, but rather, the university’s president will make the decisions, according to TMZ.

Business deals in jeopardy?

Giannulli is a YouTube beauty vlogger and social media star, but in the midst of her mother’s charges, she may lose the lucrative brand-sponsorship deals she has landed over the years, Variety reported.

HP, having cut ties with Giannulli, said in a statement, “HP worked with Lori Loughlin and Olivia Jade in 2017 for a one-time product campaign. HP has removed the content from its properties.”

Giannulli also cut brand deals with partners including Amazon, Dolce & Gabbana, Lulus, Marc Jacobs Beauty, Sephora, Smashbox Beauty Cosmetics, Smile Direct Club, Too Faced Cosmetics, Boohoo, and Unilever’s TRESemmé, the report said.

Giannulli’s rep declined to comment, Variety reported. Estée Lauder Companies, which owns Smashbox and Too Faced, also declined to comment, while the other brands or companies the magazine reached out to did not immediately respond to their requests for comment.

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CNN is about to be sued for more than $250 million for spreading fake news about 16-year-old Covington High School student Nicholas Sandmann.

Sandmann was viciously attacked by left-leaning news outlets over a deceptively edited video clip from the January March for Life rally at the Lincoln Memorial, in which the MAGA-hat-wearing teenager appeared to be mocking a Native American man beating a drum. Around a day later, a longer version of the video revealed that Sandmann did absolutely nothing wrong – after the media had played judge, jury and executioner of Sandmann’s reputation.

CNN will be the second MSM outlet sued over their reporting of the incident, after Sandmann launched a $250 million lawsuit against the Washington Post in late February.

Speaking with Fox News host Mark Levin in an interview set to air Sunday, Sandmann’s attorney, L. Lin Wood, said “CNN was probably more vicious in its direct attacks on Nicholas than The Washington Post. And CNN goes into millions of individuals’ homes. It’s broadcast into their homes.”

They really went after Nicholas with the idea that he was part of a mob that was attacking the Black Hebrew Israelites, yelling racist slurs at the Black Hebrew Israelites,” continued Wood. “Totally false. Saying things like that Nicholas was part of a group that was threatening the Black Hebrew Israelites, that they thought it was going to be a lynching.”

Why didn’t they stop and just take an hour and look through the internet and find the truth and then report it?” Wood asked. “Maybe do that before you report the lies. They didn’t do it. They were vicious. It was false. CNN will be sued next week, and the dollar figure in the CNN case may be higher than it was [against] The Washington Post.”

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Rand Paul refuses to support emergency declaration, deepening problem

Rand Paul gives a principled reason for his refusal, and he cannot be faulted for that, but it leaves the borders open and unsafe.

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Senator Rand Paul indicated he will vote to terminate President Trump’s National Emergency Declaration on Sunday. This continues a story that seems to want no resolution.

Weeks ago, the seed to this news piece started this way:

One 35-day partial government shutdown and almost three weeks later, the debate over a statistically tiny amount of money in the US budget for the building of a border wall drags on with no solution. On February 15th, if there is no agreement that is to President Trump’s satisfaction, the government will once again descend into a partial shutdown.

And on February 15th, the President signed a continuing resolution to keep the government open through the rest of the fiscal year. This CR gave sharply limited authority of funds with regards to the border wall. This prompted the President to take it a step farther and declare a National Emergency.

This is because very few people in the US government actually desire a solution to close and secure the American-Mexican border. In fact, what we see is a government that is largely aligned against the will of its citizens.

President Trump has made repeated statements and speeches in which he outlines a fair array of facts concerning the problems experienced in the US by illegal border crossings of both people and controlled substances.

However, the issue of border security remains something that Congress only supports with words. We saw this in action both last week and the week before with the Democrat led House of Representatives voting 245-182 to terminate the National Emergency declaration. While this was to be expected in the House, on March 3rd, libertarian Senator Rand Paul, a known strong supporter of President Trump, nonetheless penned an Op-Ed piece on Fox News in which he said he planned to also vote against the National Emergency in the Republican-led Senate (emphasis added):

In September of 2014,  I had these words to say: “The president acts like he’s a king. He ignores the Constitution.  He arrogantly says, ‘If Congress will not act, then I must.’

Donald J. Trump agreed with me when he said in November 2014 that President Barack Obama couldn’t make a deal on immigration so “now he has to use executive action, and this is a very, very dangerous thing that should be overridden easily by the Supreme Court.”

I support President Trump. I supported his fight to get funding for the wall from Republicans and Democrats alike, and I share his view that we need more and better border security.

However, I cannot support the use of emergency powers to get more funding, so I will be voting to disapprove of his declaration when it comes before the Senate.

Every single Republican I know decried President Obama’s use of executive power to legislate. We were right then. But the only way to be an honest officeholder is to stand up for the same principles no matter who is in power…

There are really two questions involved in the decision about emergency funding:

  • First, does statutory law allow for the president’s emergency orders,
  • and, second, does the Constitution permit these emergency orders?

As far as the statute goes, the answer is maybe — although no president has previously used emergency powers to spend money denied by Congress, and it was clearly not intended to do that.

But there is a much larger question: the question of whether or not this power and therefore this action are constitutional. With regard to the Constitution, the Supreme Court made it very clear in Youngstown Steel in 1952, in a case that is being closely reexamined in the discussion of executive power.  In Youngstown, the Court ruled that there are three kinds of executive order: orders that carry out an expressly voiced congressional position, orders where Congress’ will is unclear, and, finally, orders clearly opposed to the will of Congress.

To my mind, like it or not, we had this conversation.  In fact, the government was shut down in a public battle over how much money would be spent on the wall and border security.  It ended with a deal that Congress passed and the president signed into law, thus determining the amount.

Congress clearly expressed its will not to spend more than $1.3 billion and to restrict how much of that money could go to barriers.  Therefore, President Trump’s emergency order is clearly in opposition to the will of Congress.

Moreover, the broad principle of separation of powers in the Constitution delegates the power of the purse to Congress.  This turns that principle on its head.

Some are attempting to say that there isn’t a good analogy between President Obama’s orders or the Youngstown case. I disagree. Not only are the issues similar, but I think Youngstown Steel implications are even more profound in the case of emergency appropriations. We spent the last two months debating how much money should be spent on a wall, and Congress came to a clear conclusion: $1.3 billion. Without question, the president’s order for more wall money contradicts the will of Congress and will, in all likelihood, be struck down by the Supreme Court.

In fact, I think the president’s own picks to the Supreme Court may rebuke him on this.

Regardless, I must vote how my principles dictate. My oath is to the Constitution, not to any man or political party. I stand with the president often, and I do so with a loud voice. Today, I think he’s wrong, not on policy, but in seeking to expand the powers of the presidency beyond their constitutional limits. I understand his frustration. Dealing with Congress can be pretty difficult sometimes. But Congress appropriates money, and his only constitutional recourse, if he does not like the amount they appropriate, is to veto the bill.

This statement by Rand Paul is extremely – and painfully – fair. It marks not the actions of a liberal but of someone who is trying to do things truly “by the book.” He cannot be faulted for this.

But his “Nay” is very poorly placed because it comes in the context of a Congress that is full of people far less committed to the vision of America and its sovereignty than he or the President are. One of the reasons stated for lax border security is that cutting off illegal immigration also cuts off very cheap labor for several industries. Some of those industry leaders donate lavishly to political campaigns, ergo, corruption.

Rand Paul, in trying to fight for what is right by the letter of the law, may be correct, but in the short term it appears to exacerbate the problem of the porous US-Mexico border.

President Trump is trying to do the right thing in the company of a Congress who does not want this, for various reasons. Some of it is because some Congressmen and women are petty, Nancy Pelosi and Charles Schumer being the crabby National Grandparents in this aspect. But add to the “resist Trump because he is Trump” lobby those people who gain from illegal immigration in the short term, and those like the new socialist crop of Congressional members who are ready to change the very nature of the United States into something like their cannabis-induced dream of Sweden (which didn’t even work in Sweden!) and we see that border security is every bit the uphill climb that President Trump has shown it to be.

The government shutdown did one very good thing: It got the American focus on the border and some opinions on the matter moved – at least among the American people.

But since when did our representatives and senators really represent us, the American people?

It has been a long, long time.

 

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