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Paul Craig Roberts, “Only an idiot would believe” Dutch MH17 report. No black box, no air traffic control tapes, victims’ family barred from examining corpses

First the awesome Zerohedge comments on Paul Craig Roberts write up of the flawed and disappointing Dutch MH17 report…which essentially said nothing (can you say cover up), and ignored a lot of important information.

Once again Zerohedge commenters point out the obvious, that so many western zombies refuse to acknowledge.

Looney:
The missile exploded, just as designed, a few feet away from the plane. Simple math, isn’t it?
So, how come nobody can do the reverse calculation to PINPOINT the launch site, within a few feet?

We can easily calculate the trajectory of the Slingshot around the Moon, or landing on a freaking asteroid. Elon Musk’s rockets have consistently smashed into a tiny barge in the ocean.

So, the freaking math works on those occasions, but not for the MH17 investigation?

Don’t they have a calculator, an abacus, or a Slide Rule in the Netherlands? 😉

Looney

Jack Burton:
Have you ever heard of an air traffic crash investigation where the Black Box was kept secret? Have you ever heard of an air crash investigation that didn’t even ask for the air traffic control tapes?

When has an air crash investigation NOT asked for testimony of the Air Traffic Controller who was in contact and handled the planes flight details?

The bitch woman who was on MH-17 has been on vaction for over a year and a half, not seen or heard from. She never went back to the tower.

CNN and NPR pretend with a straight face that this is even an investigation! Fuck’n hell!

jeff montanye:
kind of reminds me of the 9-11 investigation (no black box data released whatsoever).

this also looked fishy to me:

Malaysia not only disallows inquests. It has forbidden family members of the 43 Malaysian victims from opening the coffins. None of the kin of those killed was permitted to view the victims in their coffins, Wan Lailatul Masturah said. “We were not allowed by the government, nobody must see. All the corpses who came back were not allowed to be opened.”

Latina Lover:
Could you imagine being denied the right to see your dead wife or child because the “government’ forbid it?? Does this not stink of a coverup?

Latina Lover:
Remember the Germanwings crash? It took less than 72 hours to release the cockpit recordings. Yet the Fucking Dutch can’t produce them after 15 months??

I’ll bet Putin has a copy of the black box recordings and is waiting for the right time to stick it to the USSA/EU/Dutch and Ukie stooges.

cheech_wizard:
I remember looking into the 3 planes that went down after the one in Ukraine. All their black boxes were recovered in days, if not weeks…(Only because one went down in a somewhat remote area in Africa.)

So yes, it’s complete bullshit.


 

The MH-17 ‘Report’ by Paul Craig Roberts…

When I read that the report on the downing of the Malaysian airliner over Ukraine was being
put in the hands of the Dutch, I knew that there would be no investigation and no attention to the facts.

And there wasn’t.

I did not intend to write about the report, because Washington’s propaganda has already succeeded, at least in the Western world, in its purpose of laying the blame on Russia. However, the misrepresentation of the Dutch report by Western media, such as NPR, is so outrageous as to make the media the story and not the report.

For example, I just heard NPR’s Moscow correspondent, Corey Flintoff, say that the missile that hit the airliner was fired by Ukrainian separatists who lack the technical ability to operate the system. Therefore, the missile had to have been fired by a Russian.

There is nothing in the Dutch report whatsoever that leads to this conclusion. Flintoff either is
incompetent or lying or he is expressing his view and not the report’s conclusion.

The only conclusion that the report reaches is one that we already knew: if a Buk missile brought down the airliner, it was a Russian-made missile. The Dutch report does not say who fired it.

Indeed, the report places no blame on Russia, but it does place blame on Ukraine for not closing the airspace over the war area. Attorneys have stated in response to the report that families of those killed and the Malaysian airline itself are likely to file lawsuits against Ukraine for negligence.

Of course, there was nothing of this in Flintoff’s report.

As I wrote at the time of the airliner’s destruction, the Western media already had “the-Russians-did-it” story ready the moment the airliner was reported to be shot down. This story was very useful to Washington in hardening its European vassal states into sanctions against Russia, as there was some dissent. What Washington has never explained and the Western media has never asked is: What motive did separatists and Russia have to shoot down a Malaysian airliner?

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None whatsoever. The Russian government would never allow such a thing. Putin would have immediately strung up those responsible.

Washington’s story makes no sense whatsoever. Only an idiot could believe it.

What motive did Washington have? Many. The demonization of Russia made it impossible for
European governments to resist or abandon the economic sanctions that Washington is using to
break economic and political relationships between Europe and Russia.

The Russian manufacturer of the Buk missile has proven that if a Buk missile was used, it was an old version that exists only in the Ukraine military. For some years the Russian military has been equipped with a replacement version that has a different signature in its destructive impact. The damage to the Malaysian airliner is inconsistent with the destructive force of the Buk missile in Russian service. The reports were given to the Dutch, but no effort was made to replicate and verify the validity of the tests conducted by the manufacturer of the missile. Indeed, the Dutch report does not even consider whether the airliner was downed by Ukrainian fighter jets. The report is as useless as the 9/11 Commission’s report.

Don’t expect any acknowledgement of this by the Western media, a collection of people who lie for a living.

The reason that the West has no future is that the West has no media, only propagandists for government and corporate agendas and apologists for their crimes. Every day the bought-and-paid-for-media sustains The Matrix that makes Western peoples politically impotent.

The Western media has no independence. An editor of a major German newspaper has written a book, a best-seller published in Germany, in which he states that not only he himself served the CIA as a reliable purveyor of Washington’s lies, but that every significant journalist in Europe does so also.

Obviously, his book has not been translated and published in America.

NPR, like all of Western media, has lost its integrity. NPR claims to be reader-supported. In fact, it is supported by corporations. Pay attention to the ads: “NPR is supported by xyz corporation working to sell you this or that product or service.”

The George W. Bush regime destroyed NPR by appointing two Republican female ideologues to oversee NPR’s public function. The two Republicans succeeded in making job security, not reporting integrity, the motive of NPR journalists.

As a person who worked with President Reagan to end the Cold War and associated nuclear threat, I am dismayed that the Western media has failed life on earth by resurrecting the prospect of nuclear armageddon.

References:

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/10/13/the-mh-17-report-paul-craig-roberts/

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-14/paul-craig-roberts-mh-17-report-only-idiot-would-believe-it

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The Dutch government is also behind this airplane crash because they are a puppet to usa government.. If usa government say to dutch government jump they will jump… Dutch army and government is the wors on this planet after israhell

lhy
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When Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad did not want Dutch to take remaining damaged aircraft back for analysis, When it was told that the remains of the corpse are those of MH370, Where Malaysia can have a mass grave in boarder of Thailand and Malaysia, Where we felt that Malaysia is ruled by terrorist, Where immigration allow ‘stolen passport criminals’ to be in Malaysian plane, Our conclusion is, it is not an accident but a murder.

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MH17 must have been MH370. Where is MH17 now?

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Much worst investigation tooks place in Smolensk https://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=IdAZ-5Lcag8

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What a waste of space, this story. Assumptions, conspiracies…and no brains.

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Even an idiot with minimal comprehension of geometrics can tell that it is indeed impossible to present an accurate pinpoint location of the launch site based on merely the impact pattern and the signatures on the cockpit voice recorder. That just isn’t enough information unlike with a slingshot around the moon.
But i guess common logic is not one of the strongest features of people with conspiracy polluted brains

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