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  • Chancellor Angela Merkel’s open-door migration policies have set in motion a self-reinforcing cycle of violence in which more and more people are carrying knives in public – including for self-defense.
  • A 40-year-old man stabbed to death his 31-year-old wife and mother of their three children. Police said the man was angry that his wife was using social media.
  • A “dark-skinned” man (dunklem Teint) drew a knife on a 54-year-old female train conductor when she asked him for his ticket.

A recent surge in stabbings and knife-related violence across Germany is drawing renewed attention to the deteriorating security situation there since Chancellor Angela Merkel’s 2015 decision to allow in more than a million migrants from Africa, Asia and the Middle East.

In recent months, people armed with knives, axes and machetes have brought devastation to all of Germany’s 16 federal states. Knives have been used not only not only to carry out jihadist attacks, but also to commit homicides, robberies, home invasions, sexual assaults, honor killings and many other types of violent crime.

Knife-related crimes have occurred in amusement parks, bicycle trails, hotels, parks, public squares, public transportation, restaurants, schools, supermarkets and train stations. Many Germans have the sense that danger lurks everywhere; public safety, nowhere.

Police admit they are outnumbered and overwhelmed and increasingly unable to maintain public order — both day and night.

Statistics that are reliable on knife violence in Germany – where police been accused of failing to report many crimes, apparently in an effort “not to unsettle” the public – do not exist.

A search of German police blotters, however, indicates that 2017 is on track to become a record year for stabbings and knife crimes: Police reported more than 3,500 knife-related crimes between January and October 2017, compared to around 4,000 reported crimes during all of 2016 – and only 300 in 2007. Overall, during the past ten years, knife-related crimes in Germany have increased by more than 1,200%.

The media in Germany do not report most knife-related violence. Crimes that are reported are often dismissed as “isolated incidents,” unrelated to mass immigration. Moreover, many crime reports, including those in police blotters, omit any reference at all to the nationalities of the perpetrators and victims — ostensibly to avoid inflaming anti-immigration sentiments.


Pictured: German police secure the crime scene after a knife attack on May 10, 2016 at the train station in Grafing. A man stabbed four people while reportedly shouting “Allahu Akbar” (“Allah is greater”), killing one. (Photo by Johannes Simon/Getty Images)

Merkel’s open-door migration policies have, however, set in motion a self-reinforcing cycle of violence in which more and more people are carrying knives in public — including for self-defense.

The epicenter of knife-related violence in Germany is Berlin, where some areas are now so dangerous that they have effectively become no-go zones. In Neukölln and other neighborhoods with large immigrant communities, stabbings have become daily features of life. Migrants were responsible for at least 45% of the crimes committed in the German capital in 2016, according to the Berliner Morgenpost.

The northern cities of Bremen and Bremerhaven are also hotbeds of knife violence. In 2016, at least 469 people — more than one a day — were stabbed in Bremen, according to official documents obtained by the newspaper Bild. More than a dozen people in Bremen died of their stab wounds. Another 165 knife attacks were registered in nearby Bremerhaven, a 75% increase since 2014. Migrants, according to Bild, were found responsible for most of the violence.

Another flashpoint of knife violence is North Rhine-Westphalia; stabbings are rampant in Bielefeld, Bochum, Bonn, Cologne, Dortmund, Düsseldorf and Essen, among other cities. Düsseldorf’s city center has been particularly plagued by stabbings.

Many knife attacks appear to be random, indiscriminate assaults on innocent bystanders — especially at transport hubs and on public transportation:

  • Munich, October 21. A 33-year-old man randomly stabbed eight people, including a 12-year-old boy, at the Rosenheimer Platz. Police said they “assume” that the stabber, a serial offender with a long rap sheet, was suffering from a “mental disorder.”
  • Mönchengladbach, October 16. An 18-year-old Algerian, in Germany illegally, randomly drew a knife on a 65-year-old man in a wheelchair at the central train station.
  • Hamburg, October 15. A 23-year-old man was stabbed in a restaurant after he made “accidental eye contact” with his attacker.
  • Berlin, October 11. Two passersby were stabbed at the Neukölln subway station. Police said the attack was random and unprovoked.
  • Cologne, October 2. A 24-year-old woman was robbed at knifepoint by a “dark-skinned” man (dunklen Teint) while on a train to Düsseldorf’s airport.
  • Mannheim, September 30. A 31-year-old man stabbed random passersby. Police fired a warning shot after pepper spray failed to subdue him.
  • Leipzig, July 27. A 46-year-old father at an amusement park with his family was stabbed and seriously injured when he was attacked by a group of Afghan youths.

Knife attacks increasingly involve teenagers and young children as well as women:

  • Gießen, November 15. Two “southern-looking” men (südosteuropäisch Aussehendrew a knife on two children at a school playground and took their lunch money.
  • Dormagen, November 15. A 39-year-old man randomly drew a knife on a teenager at the Helmut-Schmidt-Platz. The attacker was transferred to a psychiatric ward.
  • Wiesbaden, November 14. A man drew a knife on a woman and her children in broad daylight at a playground. The woman said the man tried to steal her dog and when she resisted, attacked her.
  • Cologne, November 2. A 39-year-old woman was stabbed by a man on drugs.
  • Singen, October 4. Two 14-year-old children speaking Turkish drew a knife and assaulted several children at a playground.
  • Dortmund, October 1. A 15-year-old was stabbed after he tried to stop a fight between a 13-year-old and a 16-year-old at the Gustav-Heinemann school.
  • Freiburg, September 29. A 34-year-old woman was stabbed by another woman during a dispute in a parking lot.
  • Hermannsburg, August 29. A man drew a knife on a 22-year-old woman because she was supposedly holding up traffic in a parking garage.

In mass brawls between groups of people from different nationalities and ethnic groups, knives appear to be weapons of choice:

  • Erfurt, November 11. A 22-year-old Afghan was stabbed and seriously injured during an altercation with other Afghans at a multifamily house.
  • Rüdersdorf, November 11. A 19-year-old was seriously injured during a knife fight at a multifamily house.
  • Hamburg, November 9. Three men were stabbed during a knife fight in Eimsbüttel.
  • Berlin, November 7. A 21-year-old Vietnamese man was stabbed to death as he left his father’s convenience store in the Wilmersdorf district. The killer is still at large.
  • Bremen, November 2. A 20-year-old man was stabbed to death during a mass brawl in front of a kebab restaurant. A few hours earlier, another man had been shot to death in a nearby supermarket.
  • Hoyerswerda, October 25. A 23-year-old Libyan was slashed in the face during a fight with a 28-year-old Libyan and a 23-year-old Tunisian.
  • Bad Wildungen, October 16. An 18-year-old man was stabbed and seriously injured when a dozen people got into a knife fight.
  • Eschwege, October 15. A 23-year-old Afghan stabbed a 23-year-old Algerian during a mass brawl involving more than 40 people at a refugee shelter.
  • Dortmund, October 14. More than 40 migrants engaged in a knife fight at a refugee shelter. When police arrived, they were “massively attacked” by the mob. Police used dogs to restore order.
  • Cologne, October 14. A 22-year-old migrant from Africa was stabbed to death at the Ebertplatz in a knife fight involving six other Africans.
  • Öhringen, October 12. A 17-year-old German-Turk stabbed and seriously wounded a 19-year Pole during a knife fight.
  • Bielefeld, October 2. A 21-year-old man was repeatedly stabbed after he came to the aid of a couple being attacked by a group of Afghan men at a skate park. More than 20 people eventually joined the fight. The stabbing suspect is an 18-year-old Iraqi Kurd.
  • Naumburg, October 1. An 18-year-old Afghan and a 19-year-old Moroccan were stabbed during a mass brawl between persons of foreign origin.
  • Dortmund, September 3. A 34-year-old Bulgarian stabbed a 54-year-old Turk outside a restaurant.

Knives have also been used in “honor” violence and internecine disputes:

  • Bad Homburg, October 30. A 40-year-old man stabbed to death his 31-year-old wife and mother of their three children. Police said the man was angry that his wife was using social media.
  • Oldenburg, October 14. The trial began of a 37-year-old Iraqi accused of stabbing to death his wife, the mother of his five children, who were in the house at the time of the attack. According to the indictment, the Iraqi murdered his wife to restore the “family honor” after he believed she was having an affair with another man. The woman had, in fact, been attending German language courses.
  • Eggenfelden, October 4. A 47-year-old migrant from Kazakhstan castrated a 28-year-old Ukrainian migrant at a migrant shelter; the victim bled to death at the scene.
  • Leipzig, August 11. A 37-year-old Afghan stabbed to death his 34-year-old wife, who was pregnant with their third child. The couple’s two children were present at home during the crime.
  • Riederich, July 9. A 35-year-old Macedonian stabbed to death a 30-year-old Macedonian from a rival clan during a wedding.
  • Herzberg, June 29. Mohammad Hussain Rashwani, a 38-year-old migrant from Syria tried to behead 64-year-old Ilona Fugmann at her beauty salon. Fugmann had offered Rashwani a job as a hair stylist and German media praised him as an exemplar of successful integration. Mohammad reportedly had found it difficult to subordinate himself to his female boss.
  • Cologne, June 14. A 33-year-old Syrian stabbed and seriously injured his ex-wife at a supermarket in Cologne. He also stabbed his 13-year-old son after the boy intervened to protect his mother.
  • Cottbus, June 9. A 32-year-old Chechen man was sentenced to 13 years in prison for slitting his wife’s throat and throwing her out of the second-floor window of their apartment. The man was charged with manslaughter rather than murder because, according to the court, the “honor killing” was done in the heat of passion: the man thought that his wife had been unfaithful.

Knife attacks also occurred against social workers and public servants:

  • Pfaffenhofen, November 11. A 28-year-old Kazakh-German held a 31-year-old clerk at a youth welfare office hostage at knifepoint for more than five hours. He said he disagreed with the results of a custody battle, in which his one-year-old daughter would be sent to a foster home.
  • Göppingen, October 26. A “dark-skinned” man (dunklem Teintdrew a knife on a 54-year-old female train conductor when she asked him for his ticket.
  • Ahaus, October 12. A 28-year-old Nigerian was sentenced to 13 years in prison for stabbing to death a 22-year-old assistant at a refugee shelter.
  • Saarbrücken, June 7. A 27-year-old Syrian stabbed to death a 30-year-old psychologist working for the German Red Cross. The attacker and the psychologist reportedly got into an argument during a therapy session at a counselling center for traumatized refugees.

Attackers are often repeat offenders known to police:

  • Gießen, November 15. A 29-year-old Kosovar and a 19-year-old Albanian drew a knife on an undercover detective who caught them shoplifting. Police said the Kosovar was wanted on an outstanding arrest warrant.
  • Bielefeld, October 31. A 39-year-old man drew a knife on police during a routine identification check. Police said he had a long rap sheet that included burglary and dealing drugs.
  • Düsseldorf, October 17. A 27-year-old migrant, Khudeda Jamal Jindi, from Iraq, slashed a man in the face at Burgplatz. Police said he had a long rap sheet that included other knife crimes; it remains unclear why he was never deported.
  • Arnschwang, June 4. Mostafa J., a 41-year-old asylum seeker from Afghanistan, stabbed to death a five-year-old Russian at a refugee shelter. It later emerged that the man had a criminal history in Germany and should have been deported in 2011 but was not.

Recent knife-jihad attacks include:

  • Hamburg, July 28. A 26-year-old Palestinian, Ahmed A., stabbed to death one person and injured several others at a supermarket in the Barmbek district. Although he repeatedly shouted “Allahu Akbar” and said he was a jihadist who wanted to die as a martyr, the newspaper Die Welt wrote: “It is still unclear whether the Barmbek murder is the work of a convinced Islamist or the desperate act of a mentally troubled person. His approach seems downright schizophrenic — or is it indeed calculated?”

Meanwhile, other knife-related crimes reported during October include:

  • Hagen, October 1. An unidentified man slashed a man with a machete at the central train station. Speyer, October 1. A 27-year-old man with a knife attacked police during an identification check at the central railway station. Werl, October 1. A “southern-looking” man (südländischer Typrobbed on a 20-year-old man at knifepoint.
  • Wilhelmshaven, October 1. A man speaking German with an Eastern European accent robbed a gas station at knifepoint. Freiburg, October 2. Two “Turkish-looking” teenagers (türkisches Aussehenrobbed two teenagers at knifepoint in a public plaza. Ulm, October 2. Three “dark-skinned” men (dunkle Hautfarberobbed a 20-year-old man at knifepoint.
  • Soest, October 4. An 18-year-old Somali stabbed a 39-year-old German man at a railway station. Hamburg, October 5. A 24-year-old security guard at a clothing store was stabbed when he confronted two male shoplifters. Wolfsburg, October 6. Two men were slashed during a fight in the Hochring district. Wiesbaden, October 6. A 23-year-old man was stabbed in the city center.
  • Johanngeorgenstadt, October 7. Five teenagers had their knives confiscated during a weapons check at the German/Czech border. Münster, October 7. Two men robbed a 16-year-old at knifepoint at a bus stop. Bremen, October 8. Two men were stabbed during a fight in the city center.
  • Weinheim, October 9. A 24-year-old store clerk was stabbed by a 46-year-old client. Hofheim, October 10. A private security guard was slashed at an Oktoberfest celebration. Cologne, October 10. A 36-year-old man was stabbed by a 26-year-old at a kiosk in the Zollstock district.
  • Stade, October 11. A “southern-looking” man (südländischem Aussehenstabbed and seriously injured a 38-year-old man. Berlin, October 13. A man was seriously injured in a knife fight at the Alexanderplatz. Kassel, October 15. Two “Arabic-speaking” men robbed a 43-year-old woman at knifepoint in the Wesertor district.
  • Niederstetten, October 17. A 19-year-old man stabbed a 30-year-old man in the stomach at a restaurant. The stabbing occurred after the 30-year-old allegedly “offended” the 19-year-old’s wife. Bremen, October 19. A 25-year-old man was stabbed by a group of males in the Huchting district. When police arrived to investigate, they were immediately surrounded by a mob of between 30 and 40 men. Police used teargas and dogs to restore order. Berlin, October 19. A 19-year-old Romanian was stabbed to death in the Tiergarten district.
  • Halle, October 19. A man was stabbed during an dispute over drugs. Düsseldorf, October 21. Two men were stabbedby four assailants in front of a McDonald’s restaurant in the city center. Stemwede, October 21. Three members of the same family were stabbed during a dispute. The attack was apparently initiated by a 43-year-old man opposed to his step-daughter’s choice of boyfriend.
  • Hamburg, October 22. An 18-year-old clerk at a cellphone store was stabbed by a 21-year-old man unhappy with the service. Hamburg, October 22. A 30-year-old man was stabbed in the stomach at the entrance to a subway station. Düsseldorf, October 22. A 21-year-old man was stabbed while trying to break up a fight.
  • Rheine, October 22. A 20-year-old Romanian stabbed a 44-year-old Romanian during a disagreement. Berlin, October 23. A 59-year-old man was stabbed and seriously injured at a store in the Schöneberg district. Leipzig, October 23. A 21-year-old man was stabbed during a fight at the central train station.
  • Solingen, October 23. A 19-year-old man was stabbed during an fight. Berlin, October 24. A 39-year-old man stabbeda 20-year-old man at the Jewish Hospital in the Wedding district. Hünstetten-Bechtheim, October 27. An 18-year-old man was stabbed at an annual festival.
  • Wangen, October 29. A 56-year-old man stabbed a 52-year old man during a disagreement at a restaurant. Chemnitz, October 29. A 27-year-old Libyan was stabbed during a knife fight involving migrants from North Africa.
  • Gießen, October 30. Two Syrian asylum seekers were stabbed during an altercation with another Syrian in the city center. Waldshut, October 30. A 32-year-old man was stabbed and seriously injured during a row at a bus station in the Tiengen district. Frankfurt, October 30. An apartment manager was stabbed and seriously injured when he attempted to evict a family from the premises.
  • Kulmbach, October 31. A 38-year-old Turk stabbed a 33-year-old German during a dispute. Berlin, October 31. Three men were injured during a knife fight involving six men at a store in the Schöneberg district. The Berliner Zeitungprovided an unusually detailed account of the fight, including the ages of each of the participants, but failed to give any information about their nationality.

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This is precisely why Americans, and smartly so, will not give up their guns.

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Is Silicon Valley Morphing Into The Morality Police?

Who gets to define what words and phrases protected under the First Amendment constitute hate — a catchall word that is often ascribed to any offensive speech someone simply doesn’t like?

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Silicon Valley used to be technology companies. But it has become the “morality police,” controlling free speech on its platforms.

What could go wrong?

In a speech Monday, Apple CEO Tim Cook said:

“Hate tries to make its headquarters in the digital world. At Apple, we believe that technology needs to have a clear point of view on this challenge. There is no time to get tied up in knots. That’s why we only have one message for those who seek to push hate, division and violence: You have no place on our platforms.”

Here’s the goliath problem:

Who gets to define what words and phrases protected under the First Amendment constitute hate — a catchall word that is often ascribed to any offensive speech someone simply doesn’t like?

Will Christians who don’t support abortion rights or having their tax dollars go toward Planned Parenthood be considered purveyors of hate for denying women the right to choose? Will millions of Americans who support legal immigration, as opposed to illegal immigration, be labeled xenophobes or racists and be banned from the digital world?

Yes and yes. How do we know? It’s already happening, as scores of conservatives nationwide are being shadow banned and/or censored on social media, YouTube, Google and beyond.

Their crime?

Running afoul of leftist Silicon Valley executives who demand conformity of thought and simply won’t tolerate any viewpoint that strays from their rigid political orthodoxy.

For context, consider that in oppressive Islamist regimes throughout the Middle East, the “morality police” take it upon themselves to judge women’s appearance, and if a woman doesn’t conform with their mandatory and highly restrictive dress code — e.g., wearing an identity-cloaking burqa — she could be publicly shamed, arrested or even stoned in the town square.

In modern-day America, powerful technology companies are actively taking the role of the de facto morality police — not when it comes to dress but when it comes to speech — affecting millions. Yes, to date, those affected are not getting stoned, but they are being blocked in the digital town square, where billions around the globe do their business, cultivate their livelihoods, connect with others and get news.

That is a powerful cudgel to levy against individuals and groups of people. Wouldn’t you say?

Right now, unelected tech billionaires living in a bubble in Palo Alto — when they’re not flying private to cushy climate summits in Davos — are deciding who gets to enjoy the freedom of speech enshrined in the U.S. Constitution and who does not based on whether they agree with people’s political views and opinions or not.

You see how dangerous this can get — real fast — as partisan liberal elites running Twitter, Facebook, Google (including YouTube), Apple and the like are now dictating to Americans what they can and cannot say online.

In communist regimes, these types of folks are known as central planners.

The election of Donald Trump was supposed to safeguard our freedoms, especially regarding speech — a foundational pillar of a democracy. It’s disappointing that hasn’t happened, as the censorship of conservative thought online has gotten so extreme and out of control many are simply logging off for good.

A failure to address this mammoth issue could cost Trump in 2020. If his supporters are blocked online — where most voters get their news — he’ll be a one-term president.

It’s time for Congress to act before the morality police use political correctness as a Trojan horse to decide our next election.

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Paul Craig Roberts: The Disintegration of Western Society

Feminists brought this madness onto themselves.

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Radical feminists are now being banned by Twitter not because they hate men, which is perfectly OK as far as Twitter is concerned, but because they object to “transwomen.”

What is a “transwoman?” As far as I can understand, a “transwoman” is a male with a penis who declares himself to be a women and demands his right to use women’s toilette facilities along with the women who are using them.

The feminist, Meghan Murphy, twittered a statement and a question:

“Men are not women.”

“How are transwomen not men? What is the difference between men and transwomen?”

Twitter described this as “hateful conduct” and banned Meghan Murphy. https://quillette.com/2018/11/28/twitters-trans-activist-decree/

There you have it. Yesterday it was feminists who were exercising their special society-bestowed privileges to censor. Today it is the feminists who are being censored. As this insanity of “Western Civilization” continues, tomorrow it will be the transwomen who are censored and banned.

What precisely is afoot?

My readers, who have partially and some wholly escaped from The Matrix, understand that this is the further fragmentation of American society. Identity Politics has set men, women, blacks, Jews, Asians, Hispanics, and white people against one another. Identity Politics is the essence of the Democratic Party and the American liberal/progressive/left. Now, with the creation of “new” but otherwise nonexistent “genders,” although they are honored as real by the controlled whores who masquerade as a “Western media,” we witness radical feminists being silenced by men pretending to be women.

I sympathize with Meghan Murphy, but she brought this on herself and on the rest of us by accepting Identity Politics. Identity Politics gave Meghan a justification for hating men even, as she failed to realize, it provided the basis for moving her into the exploitative class that must be censored.

Where does this end?

It has already gone far enough that the American population is so divided and mutually hostile that there is no restraint by “the American people” on government and the elite oligarchs that rule. “The American people” are no longer a reality but a mythical creature like the unicorn.

The film, The Matrix, is the greatest film of out lifetime. Why? Because it shows that there are two realities. A real one of which only a few people are aware, and a virtual one in which eveyone else lives.

In the United States today, and throughout “Western Brainwashed Civilization,” only a handful of people exist who are capable of differentiating the real from the created reality in which all explanations are controlled and kept as far away from the truth as possible. Everything that every Western government and “news” organization says is a lie to control the explanations that we are fed in order to keep us locked in The Matrix.

The ability to control people’s understandings is so extraordinary that, despite massive evidence to the contrary, Americans believe that Oswald, acting alone, was the best shot in human history and using magic bullets killed President John F. Kenndy; that a handful of Saudi Arabians who demonstratively could not fly airplanes outwitted the American national security state and brought down 3 World Trade Center skyscrapers and part of the Pentagon; that Saddam Hussein had and was going to use on the US “weapons of mass destruction;” that Assad “used chemical weapons” against “his own people;” that Libya’s Gaddifi gave his soldiers Viagra so they could better rape Libyan women; that Russia “invaded Ukraine;” that Trump and Putin stole the presidential election from Hillary.

The construction of a make-believe reality guarantees the US military/security complex’s annual budget of $1,000 billion dollars of taxpayers’ money even as Congress debates cutting Social Security in order to divert more largess to the pockets of the corrupt military/security complex.

Readers ask me what they can do about it. Nothing, except revolt and cleanse the system, precisely as Founding Father Thomas Jefferson said.

Is Thomas Jefferson Alive and Well In Paris?

If this report is correct, pray the revolt spreads to the US.

https://www.infowars.com/video-french-police-remove-helmets-in-solidarity-with-yellow-vest-protesters/

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Google Employees debated burying conservative media in search

Google engineer Scott Byer falsely labeled The Daily Caller and Breitbart as “opinion blogs” and urged his coworkers to reduce their visibility in search results.

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  • Google employees debated whether to bury The Daily Caller and other conservative media outlets in the company’s search function as a response to President Donald Trump’s election
  • “Let’s make sure that we reverse things in four years,” one engineer wrote in a thread that included a Google vice president
  • Google employees similarly sought to manipulate search results to combat Trump’s travel ban

Google employees debated whether to bury conservative media outlets in the company’s search function as a response to President Donald Trump’s election in 2016, internal Google communications obtained by The Daily Caller News Foundation reveal.

The Daily Caller and Breitbart were specifically singled out as outlets to potentially bury, the communications reveal.

Trump’s election in 2016 shocked many Google employees, who had been counting on Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton to win.

Communications obtained by TheDCNF show that internal Google discussions went beyond expressing remorse over Clinton’s loss to actually discussing ways Google could prevent Trump from winning again.

“This was an election of false equivalencies, and Google, sadly, had a hand in it,” Google engineer Scott Byer wrote in a Nov. 9, 2016, post reviewed by TheDCNF.

Byer falsely labeled The Daily Caller and Breitbart as “opinion blogs” and urged his coworkers to reduce their visibility in search results.

“How many times did you see the Election now card with items from opinion blogs (Breitbart, Daily Caller) elevated next to legitimate news organizations? That’s something that can and should be fixed,” Byer wrote.

“I think we have a responsibility to expose the quality and truthfulness of sources – because not doing so hides real information under loud noises,” he continued.

“Beyond that, let’s concentrate on teaching critical thinking. A little bit of that would go a long way. Let’s make sure that we reverse things in four years – demographics will be on our side.”

Some of Byer’s colleagues expressed concern that manipulating search results could backfire and suggested alternative measures

One Google engineer, Uri Dekel, identified himself as a Clinton supporter but argued that manipulating search results was the wrong route to take.

“Thinking that Breitbart, Drudge, etc. are not ‘legitimate news sources’ is contrary to the beliefs of a major portion of our user base is partially what got us to this mess. MSNBC is not more legit than Drudge just because Rachel Maddow may be more educated / less deplorable / closer to our views, than, say Sean Hannity,” Dekel wrote in a reply to Byer.

“I follow a lot of right wing folks on social networks you could tell something was brewing. We laughed off Drudge’s Instant Polls and all that stuff, but in the end, people go to those sources because they believe that the media doesn’t do it’s job. I’m a Hillary supporter and let’s admit it, the media avoided dealing with the hard questions and issues, which didn’t pay off. By ranking ‘legitimacy’ you’ll just introduce more conspiracy theories,” Dekel added.

“Too many times, Breitbart is just echoing a demonstrably made up story,” Byer wrote in a reply to his original post. He did not cite any examples.

“That happens at MSNBC, too. I don’t want a political judgement. The desire is to break the myth feedback loop, the false equivalency, instead of the current amplification of it,” Byer added.

“What I believe we can do, technically, that avoids the accusations of conspiracy or bias from people who ultimately have a right and obligation to decide what they want to believe, is to get better at displaying the ‘ripples’ and copy-pasta, to trace information to its source, to link to critiques of those sources, and let people decide what sources they believe,” another Google engineer, Mike Brauwerman, suggested.

“Give people a comprehensive but effectively summarized view of the information, not context-free rage-inducing sound-bytes,” he added.

“We’re working on providing users with context around stories so that they can know the bigger picture,” chimed in David Besbris, vice president of engineering at Google.

“We can play a role in providing the full story and educate them about all sides. This doesn’t have to be filtering and can be useful to everyone,” he wrote.

Other employees similarly advocated providing contextual information about media sources in search results, and the company later did so with a short-lived fact check at the end of 2017.

Not only did the fact-check feature target conservative outlets almost exclusively, it was also blatantly wrong. Google’s fact check repeatedly attributed false claims to those outlets, even though they demonstrably never made those claims.

Google pulled the faulty fact-check program in January, crediting TheDCNF’s investigation for the decision.

A Google spokeswoman said that the conversation did not lead to manipulation of search results for political purposes.

“This post shows that far from suppressing Breitbart and Daily Caller, we surfaced these sites regularly in our products. Furthermore, it shows that we value providing people with the full view on stories from a variety of sources,” the spokeswoman told TheDCNF in an email.

“Google has never manipulated its search results or modified any of its products to promote a particular political ideology. Our processes and policies do not allow for any manipulation of search results to promote political ideologies.”

The discussion about whether to bury conservative media outlets isn’t the first evidence that some Google employees have sought to manipulate search results for political ends.

After Trump announced his initial travel ban in January 2017, Google employees discussed ways to manipulate search results in order to push back against the president’s order.

A group of employees brainstormed ways to counter “islamophobic, algorithmically biased results from search terms ‘Islam’, ‘Muslim’, ‘Iran’, etc,” as well as “prejudiced, algorithmically biased search results from search terms ‘Mexico’, ‘Hispanic’, ‘Latino’, etc.”

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Trump speculated to The Daily Caller in September that Google and Facebook are trying to affect election outcomes.

“I think they already have,” Trump said, responding to questions about potential election interference by Google and Facebook.

“I mean the true interference in the last election was that — if you look at all, virtually all of those companies are super liberal companies in favor of Hillary Clinton,” he added.

“Maybe I did a better job because I’m good with the Twitter and I’m good at social media, but the truth is they were all on Hillary Clinton’s side, and if you look at what was going on with Facebook and with Google and all of it, they were very much on her side,” Trump continued.

Google this month corrected a “knowledge panel” about a Republican women’s group that labeled them “enablers.”

Google cited Wikipedia for the disparaging description, though a similar change made to Wikipedia’s page for the women’s group was corrected almost immediately. Google left up the digital vandalism for three weeks.

Google apologized in May after search results for the California Republican Party falsely listed “Nazism” as one of the state party’s ideologies.

Then, too, Google blamed manipulation of the party’s Wikipedia page for the inaccurate and disparaging description.

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